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  What Assembly were you baptized at...

  by vilot in

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  i was baptized at the 1976 "sacret secret" dc at inglewood ca there must have been 50,000 people there..

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  Old Goat

  At a "zone assembly" in Portland, Oregon in 1948. Baptized in the Sandy River. First Convention was United Announcers in 1944. They've been naming them at least that long.
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  Ray Franz blamed for 1975 false prophecy

  by EndofMysteries in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i was raised a jw and as a kid my family made brief mention of apostates in bethel that falsely prophecied about 1975 and were kicked out of bethel.

  i was shocked after i got out and learned that him being removed had absolutely nothing to do with 1975. i think that partial lie spread is what kept my relatives in.

  1975 a big let down/false prophecy, then they are told that a governing body member and many in bethel are found apostate and cleaned out, etc.

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  I did not like Ray Franz. The reasons are personal. But, he is the only one of the Governing Body to have apolgized immediately after the event. For that, I had huge respect for him. I wish I still had the tape. He spoke to a large gathering in the Pacific Northwest in 1977 as I recall.
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  Ray Franz blamed for 1975 false prophecy

  by EndofMysteries in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i was raised a jw and as a kid my family made brief mention of apostates in bethel that falsely prophecied about 1975 and were kicked out of bethel.

  i was shocked after i got out and learned that him being removed had absolutely nothing to do with 1975. i think that partial lie spread is what kept my relatives in.

  1975 a big let down/false prophecy, then they are told that a governing body member and many in bethel are found apostate and cleaned out, etc.

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  Fred Franz was the responsible party. Witnesses would be better off today if he'd been disfellowshipped for apostacy.
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  Anyone have a transcript of the Photodrama of Creation?

  by ILoveTTATT in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i would love it if someone had a transcript (a text of the spoken words in the video) of the photodrama of creation!.

  that would be amazing help in my little project!.

  (i already looked in the search function in jwn... didn't find anything)... if someone knows about a thread, that would be appreciated.. thanks!.

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  There was no video. It was a slide show with short bits of silent film. The text of the syncronized recordings is in the Photo Drama book. The slide show is found on youtube. The book has been reprinted. Originals show up on ebay.
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  Has anyone else observed how the elderly JWs are neglected?

  by Joepublisher1 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i know there are exceptions to this (by good-hearted jws), but has anyone else noticed how some jws (even those who are pios, elders, etc.

  ) neglect the needs of their elderly parents?

  (what i have seen is some jws hiding behind the fact that they are very busy in spiritual matters, too busy, to help their elderly parents with chores around their house, yet they find plenty of time for their own selfish pursuits.

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  Being elderly and still being considered a witness, I experience this first hand. My wife who is slightly older than I am attends regularly. She's infirm, as am I. Other than doctrinal nonsense, abuse and neglect of fellow witnesses is one of my "hot-button" issues. As the elders age and few young ones take there place, this issue will grow.
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  JW Mission = Find all checker floors in WT publications

  by bytheirworks in

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  your mission... should you choose to accept it, will be to find all checker floors in the watchtower publications, especially those involving worship.. .

  if you can upload them here, great.

  i don't know to upload a pic from my computer on this site.

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  Typos are allowed on the boards. Yes, it explains everything about me. And your comment explains everything about you.

  You’re untrained, under-educated, and you have no concept of evidential worth. You resent people who are educated, can think rationally, and who might challenge your moronic thinking.
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  JW Mission = Find all checker floors in WT publications

  by bytheirworks in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  your mission... should you choose to accept it, will be to find all checker floors in the watchtower publications, especially those involving worship.. .

  if you can upload them here, great.

  i don't know to upload a pic from my computer on this site.

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  The temples all had stone floors in the courtyard. They would be "checkered" by default. There is no rational thought behind this claim.

  The uiniversity where I teach has checkered floors in the cafeteria and in the commons. I'm betting that the bad food is a masonic conspiracy.
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  What is the stand/view of the JWs regarding the Illuminati and conspiracy theory?

  by UBM101 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i mean.... are the dubs pretty much supporters of the conspiracy theory (watching videos, researching etc) or do they avoid such materials/topics?

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  The Watchtower replaces "HUMAN" conspiracy theories with the belief that Satan is the prince of the power of the air and all human governments are controled by demons. But some Witnesses, already being fruitcakes, buy into all the other conspiracy theories too.
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  JW Mission = Find all checker floors in WT publications

  by bytheirworks in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  your mission... should you choose to accept it, will be to find all checker floors in the watchtower publications, especially those involving worship.. .

  if you can upload them here, great.

  i don't know to upload a pic from my computer on this site.

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  If you wear your coat inside out and backwards the fairies won't see you. Look for backwards clothes too. Also look for pictures of horses with tangled mains. Pixie ridden. All demonic.

  My assessment is that the same lack of logical thinking that led you into the Watchtower is leading you to this.

  Oh, one last thought. The restroom floors in the NY Times are tiled with square tiles. I'm fairly certain that means they're part of a vast Masonic consipiracy, or that the tiles were cheap and nice.
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  Unwanted Books/Brochures

  by rod.henderson in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  if anyone has any unwanted jw books or brochures let me know.

  not really in a position to buy them from you but i could cover postage maybe?

  my jw friend says she'll get me copies of things but never does.. apologies if here was the wrong forum place for this post.. .

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  Old Goat

  Dear Nathan,

  I'm interested. ... Very interested.